Agenda item - Grant Thornton Progress Report
Agenda item
Grant Thornton Progress Report
To consider the external auditor’s report on progress against planned outputs.
Minutes:
7.1 Attention was drawn to Grant Thornton’s progress report, circulated at Pages No. 9-23, which set out the progress which had been made in relation to the audit plan, together with any emerging national issues and developments that might be relevant to the Borough Council. Members were asked to consider the report.
7.2 Members were informed that Grant Thornton had completed the interim work in relation to the accounts audit and had identified the detailed work for its visit to the Borough Council which would take place once the accounts had been finalised. In terms of emerging issues, Grant Thornton had published guidance to assist local authority Audit Committee Members in understanding the authority’s financial statements so that they could make a judgement as to whether the accounts should be approved. Based on the queries received from practitioners and auditors, Grant Thornton had also compiled a list of the top issues to consider during the closure of the 2013/14 accounts, set out at Pages No. 16-17 of the report. Page No. 18 referred to a bulletin which had been issued by CIPFA’s Local Authority Accounting Panel in relation to the accounts which raised a number of issues. Reference was also made to the Audit Commission briefing, based on date from its value for money profile, which talked about the cost of waste in terms of collection and disposal, as well as Government guidance on the costs and benefits of local Government partnerships. Grant Thornton published an annual report in each of the health, local government and police sectors and in 2014 it had issued a publication on local governance entitled ‘Working in Tandem’, a copy of which had been sent to the Chief Executive and the Finance and Asset Management Group Manager. Grant Thornton was also involve in organising and supporting events for local government clients and the final page of the report set out examples of such events.
7.3
A Member indicated, and it was noted, that there was a
typographical error at Page No. 16, bullet point 3, as follows:
‘Is your programme of revaluations is sufficiently up to
date…’ A Member went on to
raise concern that no explanation had been provided for the changes
to the Borough Council external audit team. The Audit Manager explained that a former Grant
Thornton employee was now working for Tewkesbury Borough Council in
the Finance department and, as such, there was a requirement under
ethical and independent guidance to consider whether the rest of
the audit team had a conflict of interest. He explained that himself and the Engagement Lead,
Peter Barber, had worked with that particular employee for over 10
years and the guidance recommended that the audit team should be
changed in order to ensure that there was no perceived
conflict. Alex Walling had replaced
Peter Barber as the Engagement Lead and Peter Smith would also be
replaced as Audit Manager, however, as his replacement did not take
up her post until the end of the month, he was able to represent
Grant Thornton at the current meeting on the basis that he would
have no continuing involvement with the detail of the audit and he
had not been involved for the past few weeks. The Member went on to indicate that this had
raised a potential issue about the approach taken in relation to
the management of the engagement process between Grant Thornton and
the Council and he sought clarification as to how interaction took
place and Grant Thornton’s approach to dealing with Members
and the authority. The Borough
Solicitor indicated that it was her understanding that the
representatives from Grant Thornton met regularly with the S151
Officer and the Chief Executive. She
agreed that the Audit Committee should have been notified of the
changes in representation but felt that it should be borne in mind
that it was right and proper for the Chairman of the Audit
Committee to have a direct relationship with Grant Thornton and an
entitlement to meet with representatives without Officers present,
although she stressed that this was not what had happened in this
instance. The Audit Manager provided
assurance that Grant Thornton met with Officers on a quarterly
basis as had been considered appropriate when Grant Thornton had
first been appointed as external auditors; Grant Thornton would be
willing to meet more, or less, regularly to suit the needs of the
Council. Grant Thornton also met with
Audit Committees outside of the formal Committee setting, as they
did with other clients, and he indicated that the representatives
would be happy to do whatever was best for the Council. The Member recognised that this was the
case, however, he felt that actually
reaching an appropriate level of respect and interaction with
Members was a different thing entirely and nobody should feel as
though they were being bypassed in any way. A Member noted that the report on the Review of
Effectiveness of Internal Audit, due to be considered later on the
Agenda, provided further information about how the relationship
worked and communication included monthly Lead Member
updates. In addition the previous Audit
Committee Chairman had met regularly with Grant Thornton and the
Policy and Performance Group Manager for personal briefings and he
had relayed any important messages to the Committee prior to its
next meeting. The Member who had raised
the concern indicated that he had made a general comment so that
steps were put in place to ensure that the relationship was not a
‘de facto’ one and that Members were shown an
appropriate level of respect. He was
keen to stress that, just because high level meetings were held on
a regular basis, it should not be taken as read that Members
understood, or that they would be happy with the communication
about a decision.
7.4 Having considered the information provided and views expressed it was
RESOLVED That the Grant Thornton progress report be NOTED.
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